Talk:SS Absaroka
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Tenuously related, very large templates removed
[edit]Three templates were included which do not include such things as individual ships. "United States in World War II" does not include ships, fleets or campaigns or battles. "History of World War II by region and country is even less applicable — it is geographic by world regions and countries. The ship was not an operational installation of California nor does it fall within any of the subjects of the template "State of California." Palmeira (talk) 11:57, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
Sale to Greek government & subsequent names
[edit]MARAD and DANFS (probably using MARAD) are clear on sale to Greek government on 14 April 1946 and the name Prima Vista. Other sources, probably originating in McKellar, use the single word Primavista and give subsequent names and dates with Panenterprise in 1948 and Maryland in 1952. McKellar notes a discrepancy in scrapping between Lloyd's and Marine News so Lloyd's was one of his sources for the 1952—1954 period. Attempts to find those names in on line Lloyd's have so far failed. (Then the excellent search of the old Plimsol is now a "mess" without the options of the old search.)
The other question comes from "Greek government" acquiring the ship in 1946 and possibly Greek companies owning the ship subsequently and Panamanian registry until disposal in McKellar. That may be explained by the fact that from 30 March 1946 to 16 October 1949 Greece was undergoing a third phase of civil war with an intense phase 1946—1948. The only hint found so far of the ship's possible activities is Ship PANENTERPRISE arriving to Buenos Aires on Jun 26, 1948 with immigrants. Post war a number of older ships were acquired by companies specializing in transport of immigrants to Australia, the Americas and other hospitable contries. Greek companies were particularly involved in emigration from Greece and the Balkans.
Anyone with resources involving that activity might be able to fill out the post 1946 history of the ship. Palmeira (talk) 14:47, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
- Added some more detail. I do not think that any post-WW2 LRs have been made available on-line as yet. But we know that McKellar (back in 1962), and the later Starke-Schell lists and Miramar Ship Index, have drawn considerably from LR. I think that the points above on Prima[ ]Vista and post-war Greek shipping are speculative and unsourced, but am waiting for a good published source on the latter to arrive next week, so hopefully something useful can be added on that (meanwhile I've taken the related footnotes our of the article itself).Davidships (talk) 02:11, 17 July 2021 (UTC)